煤化工发展方向讨论投票

daiever · 发表于 2006-10-21 00:23

煤化工作为我国能源消费和能源化工发展的主方向，您认为哪项是应该优先发展的： 1.直接液化煤制油； 2.间接液化煤制油； 3.煤基甲醇、二甲醚； 4.煤基甲醇制乙烯(MTO)； 5.煤基甲醇制丙烯(MTP)。我来先投一票.

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meihua1104 · 发表于 2006-10-22 01:41

我也觉得无论技术可行性，和投资方面来讲，甲醇和二甲醚项目更可行一些

zhgjsnt · 发表于 2006-10-21 05:25

我投的是3煤基甲醇、二甲醚。

bluebrow · 发表于 2006-10-23 17:56

我投了间接液化煤制油一票。制甲醇的技术虽然成熟，但甲醇的规模在未来3年将远远超出市场需要。而制汽柴油根本不需要担心市场问题。<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">2005<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">年国内甲醇的产能为<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">860<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; 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lyw2005 · 发表于 2006-10-23 18:00

我觉得煤制油比较好，呵呵，我们公司就有！

koko1981 · 发表于 2006-10-23 19:49

楼上是哪家公司的？个人认为间接制油效果会好些。

zdz188 · 发表于 2006-10-23 21:05

间接制油为好，

bluebrow · 发表于 2006-10-23 21:08

二甲醚需要国家产业政策的支持，短时间内还没有看到有好转的迹象。甲醇作为燃料加入汽油中，目前只能加入10%-15%，远远不能缓解对汽油的需求。而且对发动机有较高的要求。

siyu2121 · 发表于 2006-10-24 17:44

石油价格在降，在煤化工跟石油化工相比无利可图时，那不就是灭顶之灾

sza_101010 · 发表于 2006-10-24 21:13

根据我们国家的煤资源储量，以及目前技术的成熟情况，我认为走煤基甲醇、二甲醚的路子。

aloha · 发表于 2006-10-26 00:54

现阶段，煤基甲醇、二甲醚应该是主要发展方向。至于MTP，还没有真正工业化。

HWB72 · 发表于 2006-10-26 17:49

我投煤直接液化制油一票。

chendb · 发表于 2006-10-26 18:47

煤的直接液化和间接液化是煤化工的龙头，它的工艺开发对中国尤其重要。南非坚持了50多年的煤间接液化，目前已基本上解决了能源问题，中国应该坚持自主发展能源的道路。

bluebrow · 发表于 2006-10-28 00:38

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder">以下是引用siyu2121在2006-10-24 9:44:11的发言： 石油价格在降，在煤化工跟石油化工相比无利可图时，那不就是灭顶之灾 </div>石油价格的震荡是正常的。虽然没有人敢说油价会有多高，但一般认为不会低于40美元了。

revenant · 发表于 2006-10-30 22:46

中国科学院实施科技创新战略行动计划首批五个重大项目启动：1、煤基液体燃料合成浆态床工业化技术的开发；2、水稻基因组测序和重要农艺性状功能基因组研究；3、中国陆地和近海生态系统碳收支研究；4、青藏铁路工程与乡年冻土相互作用及环境效应等5个重大项目。